Talk:Digiclan

Well, that's wild and random. I commented on a discussion page a year ago (or something) and it gets moved to a real page. Ok.

Digi and LLRT merged earlier than 98. If there was a remerging, it's because they splintered again. They merged in 95, I think. I nomored in 96 and was there through the merge, so...

Currently I'm trying to get in contact with other Digi's who've disappeared, but as has been mentioned, the Digi pages are basically dead. I'll bookmark the site and check back, so if Anna, Kim, Phouchg, or Tom sees this, leave a message and I'll figure out how to contact you.

On a less "happy-fun" note, I'd like to ask the person who wrote the bit about Tarpy if they knew her, or if they're taking the notation about her death off of the digiclan page linked from the bottom of the page here. If you're being deliberately vague, that's cool, but it reads weird to me. - Aurora 17:54, 21 September 2006 (MST)

Hi Aurora- Sorry about the inaccuracy about the merger - I joined LLRT in 1998, so I don't remember an earlier merger, and also other pages that had info about it only mentioned the 1998 one. If you want to just correct the history on the main page, that would be good, since I obviously don't remember much about 1995.

Tarpy was one or two years before my time. I wrote some of the stuff about her on this page. I was deliberately vague since the page for her seems to be dead, and the digi-page also only mentioned the dates. I was concerned that maybe people didn't want to talk too much about the details anymore.

Did you know her? Current students seem to think that she was very attached to "James Brown Is Dead," but I don't remember hearing that back in the day.

--Sammka 09:07, 24 September 2006 (MST)

I think that LLRT and Digi basically merged in 95 or 96. The group overlapped so much that I don't know that there was anything official. I could probably dig through my old memory books and list out the people who were there at the same time as me.

I knew Tarpy pretty well, yeah. We were in THEO.LAN.96.1 together, and she lived in my suite. The picture that used to be up here is gone, but it had the 5 girls from Theo in it, and she was one of them. This December is going to be the 10th anniversary of her death. I don't think it'd be hard for me, personally, to talk about it, but the other people who were close to her might feel differently. I don't remember her being any more attached to JBiD than any other Cannon Song, but it may be the case that she fought to have it on the original CD or something, and I wasn't part of that.

I think it comes down to how serious RealCTY wants to be about things like this. The wiki seems very lighthearted and about the traditions that kept us happy or gave us temporary grief. I don't see a lot about the repurcussions of real life on intelligent teenagers. I can tell you how she died. I can tell you how her friends found out, and how it affected us. I can tell you about how many of us traveled to DC to be at her memorial service, and how her school brought in a grief counselor for us while we were there. I can tell you how Digi changed after that. I can tell you how we grew apart, which would have happened anyway. But the theme of these pages seems to be more of a celebration of the brief years you'll have being CTY kids, and I don't know if that would be appropriate.

Alternatively, it may be very appropriate. Kids grow up, become young adults, and deal with the real world. Most of the CTY folks will go to college, and it might be important to illustrate how different that is from CTY. CTY is a good demo of college life, but to carry the metaphor forward, you're going to find more depth of experience in the real deal. And after college, you get to live as an adult, and everything changes again. That's where I am now, and it could be helpful and theraputic if there was a forum for that. Like, an "after CTY" support groups. ;)

Either way, I've ranted a bit. I could reminisce if there's call for it, but I won't right now.

-Aurora 08:16, 26 September 2006 (MST)

I can verify that DIGI was 94 (Lancaster, session 2) -- my last session. I don't know where that other page got '93 from.

I feel very weird that the page says only about Tarpy that she "died"...but I would also feel weird editing it. I didn't know her well enough to feel comfortable writing the entry, either, though I did know her in person and I remember the painful cracks she left in us and the community. The current entry does justice neither to her life nor her death. -Andromeda, 22 December 2006

I think it should be edited to include the "how"- I mean, the real world is(sadly) the real world- but I don't think it's my place to make the edit since I wasn't in Digi. I do think that any Digi person on here could legitimately claim a right to edit that section as they see fit. It may not be all the detail and memory that one may wish to have included, but some seems better than none. Note that some detail is already on the James Brown is Dead page. -Dutchman 22:30, 22 December 2006 (MST)

Throwing in my two cents, way way late: I didn't really have an opinion on what to say about Tarpy's death, but noticed that a DIGIclan page about her hadn't said how she died, and was concerned that this indicated people were uncomfortable talking about the fact that it was suicide. I also agree that it's a topic that needs to be talked about, but thought that if anyone edited to add more information, it should be someone who actually knew Tarpy and could therefore make that judgment call better than I could. --Sammka 10:46, 6 January 2007 (MST)

• Dang, it's weird to find a wiki talking about stuff I haven't thought about much in years. I was in the '95 LLRT group that got assimilated into DIGI, and I spent both sessions in 1995 and 1996 at Lancaster with that group. Regarding the "digiclan" name, the name actually came about because on the server that hosted the original digi mailing list, list names had to be 8 characters long. The "clan" part didn't have any other significance (or reference to the LAN) site that I know of. Other than that... I don't really have a lot to say about the history at this point, except that the DIGI/LLRT axis was full of wonderful people that I wish I was more in touch with, these days. The last organized reunion that I was aware of took place over New Year's '02/'03. --Nlesgold 19:50, 3 September 2007 (PDT)

Dan?

Is the "Dan (last name uncertain)" the one who was called Manly Danly by (Zoot?) ? BonnySwan 20:03, 11 July 2008 (PDT)

Do you mean Dan Diffendale?

Sorry...don't remember his last name. BonnySwan 18:19, 17 July 2008 (PDT)

Crazylate

It's really late.

I have all the old Digiclan and LLRT webpages downloaded onto my computer. Anybody wanna host them? Is that legal? They're mostly text. Maybe they can be put up here, like the Eliza page.

• Hi - this is Marshall (one of the original digis and once-upon-a-time the maintainer of that page.) Is Crazylate the same person as Max Wang? Because Max emailed me yesterday asking about hosting an archival copy of the old pages here. This has prompted an ongoing discussion among the clan's residual semi-connected set about what would be good to host on here. Hold on a bit and we'll work something out. On the one hand, sure, if you're interested then we'd like to have it on here. On the other hand, certain of the gang with more-google-able names would like to protect their online identities a bit - in other words, to ensure that their actual business page shows up on a web search for them, instead of some decade-and-a-half-old collection of wildly outlandish fun. (This may seem a bit of a weird concern, but it's an annoying reality in some cases that one doesn't want old material so accessible by the world at large, even if we'd be OK with having it available to CTYers.) So we're talking about how best to balance all this.

• In the mean time, it's also worth pointing out that we made that page originally just for ourselves, not for anybody else or for history or anything like that. Don't take us so seriously - we certainly didn't take ourselves seriously at the time! Rebel against authority (including us!), invent your own traditions and have fun with it. --Mperrin 21:57, 14 July 2008 (PDT)
  • Yes, that was me (me being Max). It was pretty late, hence the heading (my username around here is different). Whatever parts of the site you're collectively willing to display is great with me. Now, I have very, very limited knowledge about technology, although I hope to repair this shortcoming in the near future. I have a novice suggestion, however. Would it be possible and sufficient to disallow spider-searching through the robots.txt file? The issue with this is that I'd like RealCTY to still be searchable. The Digiclan portion of RealCTY will likely take the URL of http://digiclan.realcty.org, but I'm not sure whether this makes it easier or more difficult to exclude only that portion of the site. If it is, again, both possible and sufficient to do this, then I will talk to Parke, the actual owner/operator of RealCTY, and ask him if he can make said changes. --Max W. 22:53, 14 July 2008 (PDT)
    • I guess I am getting into this a few years late. This is Louis a digi from 95.1, and the one time maintainer of digiclan.org along with its associated mailing lists and irc server (basically everything that had nothing to do with html ;-) It has been an interesting read of the this page. I just had a few comments I wanted to make about some discussion on this Talk page, from years past. In particular, I seem to recall one of the reasons we did not put much about Tarpy on the page was that some reporter contacted several us shortly after her death through information that had been publicly available on our site.
    • As for the digi/LLRT merge thing, we debated whether that had really happened at the time, if people recall. I think the general consensus was that the groups were somewhat distinct, in that the LLRT contained everyone in digi, but most of digi went to both sessions or session 2. Most of the people who I considered to be LLRT but not digi were only there session 1. So if you were there session one they seemed like the same group, at least by 96.
    • Finally, I suppose I should talk about the Canon CD, since my name is attached to it. In retrospect, I think doing it was a great thing for us, but spreading it around so much, and insisting on it as the definitive canon was a huge mistake. Up until then it had been more fluid, I seem to recall that when we made the CD, over a decade ago, we started with a list of ~50 songs, but that was entirely impractical (blank CDs cost $12-15 back then, in fact if you ever see an original Canon CD, you will see that in order to get cheaper media Tarpy bought discs that had been repurposed from a Photo CD production line, which means it has no lacquer coat on the top, and that they scratch more easily some other CDs). The cost also meant we had to trim the list down to fit one CD. Putting those songs onto CDs had the effect of basically freezing the cannon. I can't help but feel like we stole something from everyone who came after us. Louis G. 5:44, 15 July 2008 (EST)

Digiclan site

I've tried following the links to the website, and it does not seem to exist. Has it just been moved, or has it actually disappeared? -FJØRKËN 16:12, 17 November 2008 (PST)

It's gone. It may appear on RealCTY at some point.