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| − | Like I said, the glowsticking records were removed because some were false, and with only the others (or maybe just one other) remaining, they didn't seem significant. I made it clear that you were invited to write a more comprehensive combined entry, integrating all three records. I also made it clear why the Chen entry should go to Memories -- you have no idea yet whether he will be remembered in future sessions as being significant to the overall site culture. Without this foreknowledge, he's just another session's camp legend, and most of those don't have their own HoF entries (in fact, Saratoga is the only session with individuals who seem to have had such a lasting influence that they were still significant years later; Lancaster doesn't have /any/ people in its HoF, only some small-group or individual actions). If you would prefer not to pay heed to editing policy, or to reintegrate and to revamp removed content, and instead would prefer to yell, that's your prerogative. I made the policy clear, I gave suggestions for how you can improve a page which is beyond my CTY background, and I called you out on your reaction towards a sysop -- behavior which would have been inappropriate regardless of which user you directed it towards.
| + | Yo, quit getting so emotional about that, jeez... PCTYD and RealCTY admins. Who could have thought CTY-ers could be that bad. |
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| − | If you're calling out sysops for "dicking around," then you, and not I, are the one who is power-tripping -- and moreover, if you're going to accuse me of power-tripping hypocrisy, you should at least include some substantial claims beyond the nebulous "what actually happens there." I am not playing favorites with which sites' HoF's I edit and move to Memories; in fact, if anything, as an editor, I'm harsher on Lancaster because it's my home site. Nor am I applying pressure to you or your site's page without reason. I support moving less significant HoF entries into Memories to improve the page as a user, not as admin. As admin, I am enforcing a newly revamped and much clearer policy on the criteria for HoF pages. I'm not sure exactly what here involves "power-tripping." Am I not allowed to touch your HoF page because I don't attend your site? Am I not allowed to make and promote editing policy that I, having spent four years running this site, think will improve page quality and extend the site's utility and longevity? I've given you clear guidelines, as well as proposed some suggestions which you are free to interpret at your own leisure. I understand that you are defensive of the things you find personally important regarding your CTY experience. One of them, according to editing policy, is fit for the page -- but only if it's written so that it is clearly significant, in precisely the right amount (specifically, so that it doesn't contain false information). As for the other, I think it's reasonable to keep it in Memories until time (maybe a year or two or three) makes it clear that it is truly worth of the HoF.
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| − | Now, you have two options. You can help improve the site and improve this page by restoring the content that has been removed or moved, and improving the remaining content both here and in Memories:SAR. Or you can clutch your pride in two fists and stay on your own power trip. Please, choose the first option. I have no intention of alienating editors with good intentions; I just want to enforce the site policy. I would prefer you to stay and help the page, since it's not my site or my era. But if you must take the second option, know that you, unlike me, do not have the power to trip on. --[[User:Memoriesonfilm|Max W.]] 01:36, 20 August 2010 (PDT)
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